#Edchat 10-19-2010 – 18:00 CET 12 PM EST
We are very grateful to have this wonderful guest summary from Larry Fliegelman (@fliegs) for what was one of the most exciting edchats we have experienced! Larry is a regular at #edchat and always provides great insight as well as lots of very useful links. I think you will all agree that he has done a fantastic job capturing the mood of the edchat discussion as well as its content. See Larry’s bio at the end of the post.
With so much attention in the national media on education issues, it has become increasingly clear that many myths swirl about in the public conscience. If one believes these myths, then one believes that, except for those few great teachers somewhere, teachers know nothing, teachers can do nothing, teachers care nothing for children, and teachers will be motivated by nothing but merit pay. The EdChat community has, for the last several weeks, been talking about how we can counter the popular “conventional wisdom” about teachers in reaction to Waiting for Superman, Oprah Winfrey, and NBC’s Education Nation. At some point, we realized that to stop the swirl, we needed to know the myths first.
Here are some of the main themes from the discussion:
- There are SO many myths out there about education.
- For a complete list of the myths mentioned during the chat, see the transcript (link below) or this page that lists only the myth.
- Some ideas came up repeatedly
- Homework is good/bad
- Myth: Anyone can teach
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- Myth: Students are tech literate already
- Myth: Teachers don’t need to teach tech
- Merit pay is bad
- Myth: Teachers don’t work hard
- Myth: More money will solve the problems
- Myth: standardized testing = learning
Here is a selection of some of the comments:
With such a vibrant discussion, it’s almost impossible to do it justice in a summary, but I’ve picked out some of the comments that caught my eye.
rkiker @rliberni To move myths aside, one option is to involve community – invite them to see our efforts and dedication #edchat
Lauren_Learning I think we have myths like these because they are more convenient than the truth. #edchat
Mamacita Myth: Barbie was right; math is too hard. Some students don’t need ANY math b/c it makes them work too unfairly hard. #edchat
tomwhitby MYTH: Our teachers are all Media literate and are preparing our kids with the latest tech they need for the 21st Century. #Edchat
CrudBasher Seems to me that many of these myths aren’t 100% true or false. Like kids, there are variations. #edchat
L_Hilt Myth: Peer collaboration is scary because my colleagues will be judging me and stealing my ideas! #edchat
domi75P Myths are a way to present one side only of what really happens
fliegs @rliberni I mean letters to newspaper editors (the print kind). Also we need to write to our congressfolks. Invite them to school. #edchat
domi75P We can change the myths by showing that school has changed
fliegs @rliberni Begin at school by engaging in conversation with the teacher next door. Change the conversation in the staff lounge. #edchat
Akevy613 MYTH: Teachers don’t need D.I. when it comes2 their readiness 4 a new skill or 4 P. D. – A one size fits all model is ok 4 teachers #edchat
MikeGwaltney Myth: Teaching Creativity / Alternative Assessments in core academic courses dumbs down education, and should be reserved for arts. #edchat
azjd Myth Busting: we need to keep pushing true educational leaders / ideas to the forefront of the reform discussion. #edchat
DrSmartEd @domi75P Remember, loudest voices against us are the “Experts” who went to sch &”know.” Showing that it has changed is not enough. #edchat
thenewtag Have to truly understand the root cause/ perspective of believers in order to change “mythical” thinking re” ed or anything else #edchat
elanaleoni @ToddAHoffman Good question. We need to infuse teacher’s voices as much as possible when media covers education 2 change the opinion #edchat
MikeGwaltney Myth held by Ed Reformers in D.C. (can they really believe this?!?!): Life is just like a multiple choice test. #edchat
DanielAyres BUT MANY Teachers BELIEVE THEY are solely responsible for the success of the students = truth? #edchat @MeganLearner 😉
thenewtag Myth: Pro-teacher accountability is the same as anti-teacher. Studies show MANY tchers support more accountable eval./ hr policies #edchat
ShellTerrell What if we all tried to get our best practices in news like @NMHS_Principal @bhsprincipal @SNewco #vanmeter have managed to do? #Edchat
ToddAHoffman #Myth- Feds determine direction of ed- Fact- Probably less than 5% of your school budget comes from Feds #edchat
Lauren_Learning Love this idea! Highlight what’s working rather than what’s not working 2 create a momentum 2 replicate best practices (@elanaleoni) #edchat
TeachPaperless If preconceptions were people, they’d surely be the critics who didn’t read the book. #edchat
GaryBrannigan Teachers need to become more active in the community and the community needs to become more active in children’s education #edchat
fliegs What are YOU going to do about these myths? #edchat
ShellTerrell Do we need a Myth Busters for Education show? #Edchat
azjd Myth Busting: Education is messy. Reform won’t fit into a neat box – one size doesn’t fit all. #edchat
davidwees Join the “Tell Our Story” project if you want to see some of these myths about education dispelled. http://is.gd/fZ7Ka #edchat
rkiker @ShellTerrell I wish society believed that teachers work incredibly hard – and that it is on of the most difficult professions. #Edchat
davidwees The best public education systems are in countries which have done a much better job of addressing poverty than has the US. #edchat
I would ask that the following question is added to the poll next week:
How can we implement what we believe to be real education transformation?
To follow the complete discussion see here
For the stats on #edchat participation see here
As ever, there were some great links shared:
tomwhitby: Don’t Forget Diane Ravitch LIVE Today at 4 PM EDT. Presentation & Discussion. http://bit.ly/duX97e Join Us!
cybraryman1: All these myths are the reason why we need Twitter Academy to show how Ed should be http://cybraryman.com/twitacad.html #twitacad #edchat
fliegs: Here is a place to start cataloging myths, facts, and alternatives http://bit.ly/dgjrBC
shamblesguru: If it is a myth then won’t it be listed at http://snopes.com all the others are 😉 #edchat #edtech
ShellTerrell: http://bit.ly/9eSxbo 3 column site for myth, fact, alternative #edchat
cybraryman1: @Mamacita Show the nonbelievers my Poetry page: http://cybraryman.com/poetry.html
mreduhowto: top ten youtube channels for education http://t.co/5dUtiac via @drezac #edtech #edchat
iearnusa: Myth: “Give them a laptop & pupils will teach themselves” @OLPC [The Guardian] http://j.mp/9qDBXR @ShellTerrell #edchat
ASCD: No. 1 read for today comes from @DianeRavitch http://bit.ly/cOVgHK #educationnation #edchat
Qwizdom: Bowie High School demonstrates revolutionized instruction! http://bit.ly/aSVXpM #edchat #edtech
davidwees: Fun project. Design the computers of the future. http://is.gd/g8lYz #edchat #edchat
jonbergmann: @billgx Individualized lrning via the flipped/mastery clssrm http://bit.ly/3PAZ1K http://bit.ly/bAX4dN #edchat
Fliegs: Take a minute to add info to the myth, fact, alt list http://bit.ly/dgjrBC #edchat
rliberni: Myths in edu a definition http://www.teachersmind.com/myths1.htm
carneysandoe: Myths about teaching: http://www.teachersmind.com/teaching.htm
ShellTerrell: Many great myths listed here! Please add them to this Google doc created by @twoodwar http://bit.ly/d1qlGO
jonbergmann: The best summary of what we are doing to differentiate for all is found at http://bit.ly/aAP9UL
DUMACORNELLUCIA: Internet myths #edtech20 #edchat #etchat #elearning #lrnchat #liveclass20 http://slidesha.re/cQzb2f
MZimmer557: Here are my 8 misconceptions (myths) about tech integration. Great conversation going. http://j.mp/cfT79S
goashland: Would like this story framed on the positive! Celebrate innovation in education & creating schools that work… http://ow.ly/19woD8
ShellTerrell: Many great myths listed here! Please add them to this Google doc created by @twoodwar http://bit.ly/d1qlGO
davidwees: Join the “Tell Our Story” project if you want to see some of these myths about education dispelled. http://is.gd/fZ7Ka
publicagenda: How A Whisper Became A Roar: teachers talking about reform http://bit.ly/cvnydl Supporting Teacher Talent http://bit.ly/8M1S5U
web20education : Teachers guide in the classroom #microsoft #edtech20 #edchat #lrnchat #educhat #safedchat… http://fb.me/A7DMxUC3
MarjieKnudsen: Teaching solution-focused skills to #kids http://ow.ly/2VG6R @CoertVisser #edchat #parenting
olafelch: Charles Murray on Education Myths http://youtu.be/n8GN8g0Si7Q
CrudBasher: @ShellTerrell My blog post today is about how everything is up for changing: http://bit.ly/9LieRI
ShellTerrell: @TeachPaperless Seems like something your students could produce 😉 I think you have a studio #edchat RE http://bit.ly/9GnZp4
4thGrdTeach: Are you the reform? I am the reform http://ow.ly/2VWrV
cybraryman1: No myth I’m in between flights. Thanks for great chat My Myths http://cybraryman.com/myths.HTML
carneysandoe: @fliegs School Pride on Hulu http://www.hulu.com/watch/186012/school-pride-soaring-eagles
edteck: Myth: Test prep works. My post at http://bit.ly/a2mvhH
lemino: Here’s someone who’s trying to break some myths: Greg Whitby http://youtu.be/OpIYsmRkZew #edchat talking about “a new DNA for education”
Larry Fliegelman has been an elementary principal, middle school assistant principal, and middle school social studies teacher for the last 14 years. Larry tweets at @fliegs and blogs for the Connected Principals and his Principal’s Point of View. Other ways to find Larry online are:
Shelfari, Flieg’s Views, Diigo, email
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