1-12-2010 – 18:00 CET 12 PM EST
Yesterday’s topic certainly hit a spot with many ideas, aspirations, gripes and visions being shared! There was consensus on the need for any testing to be valid and in the interests of the student. Beyond this ideas ranged from scrapping tests altogether to putting up and shutting up!
Here are some of the main themes which came through.
- Should standardised testing continue at all?
- Testing needs to be more diverse and dynamic to reflect our students.
- Testing should be computer-based, online and use more tech tools making sure students are actually able to use these effectively.
- Do we need to be involved in the testing question at all? Is it a national/regional issue?
- Testing must reflect life in the 21st century. It needs to take into account the tech-driven society we are.
- The need to collect data mitigates against any real change.
- Cost implications and public accountability dictate the form of testing.
- Continuous and classroom-based testing seem more valid.
- Maybe we need to re-evaluate what we evaluate – this spills over into a larger questions about re-defining what we teach and how we educate.
- The focus must be on learning not testing and grades.
Here are some of the comments:
MissCheska 21st century skills = collaboration, interpersonal and communication skills, ability to do basic skills dealing with technology #edchat
andycinek standardized testing should become as diverse and dynamic as our learners. Most tests are still created with a myopic vision #edchat
cybraryman1 It goes without saying that we have to prepare our students for life in the 21st Century so tests should reflect that. #edchat
akamrt I hope this doesn’t come off as snarky, but why should we involve ourselves in maintaining the testing culture?
raffelsol If we have to teach via multiple disciplines, why aren’t tests given in the same fashion? #edchat
jgmac1106 One of the major reasons tech is described as fad is because no gain scores on stand tests. Tests not sensitive to 21st skills #edchat
bedellj @akamrt I don’t think most want to maintain testing, but gov. force us, so how can we improve what we’re stuck with? #edchat
ctuckness media literacy would be measurable in stand. tests #edchat
Parentella How can we expect out children to use tech IRL but refuse to educate them or test their knowledge? #edchat –AH
andycinek 21st cntry tests need to move beyond the shaded circle and offer variety, however we are stuck in a system that loves bubbled data #edchat
PearsonLongman And the public will always need over-simplified metrics to understand how its $$ is being spent @haretek #edchat
elanaleoni I’m wondering how many out there have seen classroom-based assessment programs work? #edchat Washington recently had some wins with it.
weemooseus Interesting that most quality focused businesses have done away w/testing, creates more defects than it solves #edchat
twoodwar worries me that people seem to think the focus of our ed system should be on creating “workers” #edchat
ShellTerrell RT @franze98: to play devils advocate here, most kids know more about cell phones than the teachers i work with #edchat
raffelsol: One problem with using tech to test is that things move so fast when something is developed, it is outdated.
rachelala Is standardised testing reductive ? Is security against ‘cheating’ the priority , whereas ‘cheats’ are a knowledge-share in C21?
akamrt @cybraryman1 #edchat We can’t keep saying we are preparing stus for a future we can’t know & then >
mattguthrie accountability should not be regurgitation of factoids (current system) #edchat
olafelch @twoodwar Education still has to serve future employers. It doesn’t help an educated kid if he can’t get a job. #edchat
elanaleoni Standard. testing doesn’t even come close to measuring collaborative skills <– a necc. 21st cent skill.
juleach RT @jgmac1106: I also fear state assessments moving online and states saying we measure 21st c. skills. they take test on computers #edchat
@irasocol: @DrGarcia Why (example) must I write a thesis? Don’t I prove my research and knowledge base daily on line? #edchat
DrGarcia Iron Educator lighting it up! RT @irasocol: “required knowledge” is a real thing. “Standardized testing” is fraternity hazing #edchat
ITLynda emphasis shouldn’t be on the paper test; should be about finding out where the students are so we can meet them there #edchat
Boundstaffpres The fractured curriculum we have plays well w/ stand testing. Put it back together & u end the need for stand tst
angelbrady Is the standardized testing itself boring? Will tech solve it? Don’t we need standards to see where students are in learning? #edchat
@scottac87 A hindrance to addressing ISTE-S comes from above. It’s hard to deal with digital citizenship when much is blocked. #edchat
passandr @karimderrick One of the huge problems is cost. Testing must be cost efficient or it becomes impossible. Unfortunately. #edchat
@bedellj I used online portfolios in college. Perhaps it is time that states begin using a similar system? #edchat
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Some useful links were shared – here they are!
1 hashtag helps #educators change their schools: http://bit.ly/8Lrb1D
@rliberni Maybe not too narrow, but different in focus. See the Denmark experiment http://bit.ly/79xwCD
everything needs to change – change instruction so they have to change testing http://bit.ly/7LYhEo
Parthcawl Primary School’s taken non C21 assesssment http://bit.ly/879Ulu
An interesting article on grading in the digital age http://bit.ly/1LoKW2
Here’s a graphic I’ve found helpful when talking about 21st century skills. http://bit.ly/59lBuw
prob is partially non-educators making policy http://bit.ly/4Qfsej | yes, we need 360 input but we have none #edchat
See UK project e-scape where structured portfolio. assess. measures creativity & innovation #edchat http://bit.ly/749SOt
this is our shot http://bit.ly/i9pvc
@bedellj #edchat My response to ur stud convo process http://tweetphoto.com/8581686
RT @ShellTerrell Some skills lacking in schools, make sure your students connected http://bit.ly/3qaLgl
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